Summary : Dean remembers the day he met his boyfriends.
Tags/warnings : Explicit, Threesome, dcj smut, fluff and smut, cuddly boyfriends, Anal Sex, handjobs, werewolves, Dean is turned on, probably some spelling mistakes missed while editing, something like love on first sight, but more like crush on first sight.
Teaser : He met them first in a nice bar in Lawrence. The atmosphere was nice and the bartender hot. She was a brunette and her hair was bound together. Sometimes, her brown eyes would met his and she would blush and smile.
Dean had just planned on getting drunk on beer and maybe finding a hot one night stand, when a man settled down on the chair next to him. He smiled at Dean. ,,So, were you going to go home with that girl over there, or can I buy you a drink ?“
The guy was hot, his blue eyes piercing through Dean, but definitely not in an uncomfortable way, and so Dean gladly accepted. They exchanged names, and Jimmy sipped on a drink of his own. After a bit of flirting, Dean considered asking the man to come home with him, when Jimmy apologized himself to the toilet.
Dean played with the straw in his drink, finishing it when he heard a deep voice just behind him. ,,Can I buy you a drink ?”, a male voice asked and Dean turned around to tell him that he was flattered, but his companion was on the toilet, only to stop,when he realized, that it was Jimmy who was asking. He huffed a breath. Looked like Jimmy had drunken a bit too much.
,,I believe you already did.“, he said, gesturing to his empty Glas, where a lonely straw dangled around. Confusion spread over the mans face, his eyebrows raised in a way that made Dean’s Cock twitch interested. Dean sighed and leaned with his arm on the table, not caring that his elbow got sticky.
,,I didn’t. I would have remembered buying someone as gorgeous as you a drink.”, he said with an adorable head tilt and squinted at Dean. He was incredible adorable and Dean kinda wanted to kiss him. The confusion made place for realization, as he looked over Dean’s shoulder.
Dean followed his Blick, only to see a familiar person walking in his direction. There was Jimmy again, and now Dean was confused, since Jimmy was also standing next to him.
Title: The Pet Debacle, or: That Time Dean Resented The Twins for Not Speaking Up. Again.
Author: FPwoper
Rating: Explicit
Tags: Cas and Jimmy are Twins, Twincest, Cat vs Dog Debate, Secrecy, Dean’s Low Self-Esteem, Blow Jobs, Crack fic (sort of), Established Relationship, Bottom!Dean, Top!Cas, Top!Jimmy, Switch!Jimmy, Masturbation, Voyeurism (of sorts?), Dean in Panties, (mention of) Double Penetration
Summary: Dean should have known better. After five years of being in a relationship with Cas and Jimmy Novak, he usually knew when the twins were up to something. But somehow he’d missed it this time around, and now he has to deal with the consequences, which include being interrupted during blowjobs by the whispering twins. Dean is sure that they are keeping something from him, but he can’t for the life of him figure out what that ‘something’ is.
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Everything You Wanted To Know About Twin Teachers But Were Too Afraid To Ask
Author: wetkitchenpaint
Artist: dmsilvisart
Rating: Explicit
Archive Warnings: none apply
Word Count: 13220
Major Tags: polyamory, twincest, Castiel and Jimmy Novak are twins, teacher Dean, teacher Castiel, teacher Jimmy, Jimmy is a flirty asshole, top Castiel, bottom Dean, implied switching but not onscreen, snowballing
Summary: When Castiel & Jimmy Novak are hired as new teachers at the school where Dean Winchester works, Dean’s first worry is that he’s going to have to wear a jockstrap so as to keep in his dick in check while teaching in close proximity to such gorgeous men. But when he starts catching feelings, and he finds out that they’re reciprocated? That brings several new challenges for all three of our teachers.
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Tags: Angels Castiel and Jimmy, Demon Dean Winchester, Gift Cas and Jimmy, Twins in lingerie, Panty Kink, Blow Jobs, Rimming, Light Dom/sub, Sub Castiel, Dom Jimmy Novak, Anal Sex, Threesome - M/M/M, Twincest, Castiel and Jimmy Novak Are Twins, Dirty Talk, Voyeurism, Mentions of Torture (to demons only), Jimmy is a Little Shit, Attempted Romance, Dean is bad at romance, Gift Giving, Enemies to Lovers, Love Confessions, Fluff and Angst, Consent is Sexy, everyone is confused about their feelings, Sam is a soulless bastard, Original Male Character - Freeform, Happy Ending, descriptions of food, Possessive Dean Winchester, Minor Bela Talbot/Dean Winchester, alcohol to deal with feelings
Summary:
When King of Hell, Dean Winchester, strikes a major blow to Heaven’s forces, the angel’s decide to offer him a deal—one of their own as a prize in return for peace. What they’re not expecting is for Hell’s ruler to cherry pick two of Heaven’s finest warriors to be his pets.
Dean thinks this will be easy. He’s got two beautiful warriors of God locked in his playroom, just for him. After all, being a demon is never easy, and he deserves a little fun breaking in new toys, right?
Unfortunately, Dean’s never come up against James and Castiel before. They’re beautiful, they’re fierce, and they are pissed off… and they aren’t going to take being collared lying down.
If Dean ever wants to stand a chance of getting his hands on them, he’s going to have to do this the old fashioned way.
The problem is: what does a demon know about romance?
Author: Supernatastic101 Artist: @diminuel Rating: Mature Word Count: 18,258 Archive Warnings: None Major Tags: POV!Dean, magic!au, medieval!au, slow burn, deanjimstiel, alive!Mary, dead!John, minor character death (Not Sam, Dean, Cas, or Jimmy), minor blood imagery, minor violence, implied sex, implied twincest
Summary: Sam and Dean lived at home with their widowed mother, Mary, in a quaint cabin on the edge of a forest. Their lives were pretty much normal and calm, until one day Sam’s gets in over his head learning magic and a mysterious figure shows up at their door that Dean never thought he’d see again. Even weirder, he brought his twin brother, and they both just happen to be transformed into animals when the sun’s out! The four of them partake on a journey that leads them to the other side of the forest Dean’s never seen, bringing them face to face with the witch that cursed the boys. With the help of the Persian Shield, a magical plant with an enormous potential to protect its user, they break the curse, leaving Cas and Jimmy back to normal after all those years. But when it’s time to say goodbye, Dean’s not sure he can…
Rating: Teen and up Pairing: Dean/Cas/Jimmy Tags: Fluff and Humor, Alternate Universe - Superheroes/Superpowers, Mistaken Identity, Dean as Jimmy Olsen, Castiel and Jimmy Novak Are Twins, Rescue, Low angst, Awkward Flirting, Comedy, Action/Adventure, Surprise Double Lover, DCJ Big Bang
Summary: The Seraph strikes fear into the hearts of criminals, protecting the metropolis and keeping its citizens safely out of harm’s way! Nobody knows the true identity of the man behind the mask–nobody, that is, until cub reporter Dean Winchester has an unexpected brush with the mysterious superhero. No way could he mistake those blue eyes for anyone other than Castiel Novak, his newspaper mentor and oject of his deeply hidden crush! But…now what? How can he get Cas to trust him without giving away his secret?
Castiel would very much like to open up to Dean about his biggest secret, especially with how Dean has begun dropping those veiled hints. There’s just no way Dean could suspect what Cas is really hiding, of course.
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Summary: Castiel and Jimmy lived their whole lives away from their twin always feeling like something was missing. After a drunk night Castiel wakes up to see that his lover didn’t only just look like him because he was drunk, but because he was Castiel’s literal identical twin. They continued their relationship long after that night, but after Jimmy starts a new job and flirts with one of his boss’ brother’s, could that be the end of their happiness or the beginning of something enchanting?
Excerpt:
“Who the fuck are you?” His voice sleep rough and still a little gone from moaning last night.
“Jimmy,” the other answered, his voice slightly higher than Castiel’s.
“No, I mean, yes I wanted to know your name, but why do you look like me?!”
“I – I don’t know. I think I need a few shots in me to clear this one up.”
Castiel couldn’t agree more and got up and walked to his door, he looked back to see if the other was following him. He thought about it at the last second and walked back picking up the pink lacy panties he had on the night before from the floor only to see the same pair in green next to him. He locked eyes with the other man before laughing and straightening up to pull them on. He rummaged through his drawer and grabbed two pair of sweats, one for him and for Jimmy to wear. He was going to need Gabe for this, so they needed clothes.
He threw the green panties and the sweats onto the bed by Jimmy and walked out the door calling back on his way out, “I’ll be right back. Beers in the fridge over there.”
“What the shit Cassie? You know I need my beauty sleep, it’s only eleven am, it’s too early to be awake on our day off,” his brother called from inside his apartment on the way to open the door.
“I know, but I have a problem. Beers waiting for you on my table. Send away tall dark and handsome and come over.“
He left and walked back across the hall seeing that Jimmy had listened to him. He grabbed his own beer and took two huge swallows before going to pee while he waited for his brother.
((I would like to note that Castiel and Jimmy only Switch twice in the story, other than that Jimmy is Top and Castiel is Bottom, but Dean is always Top.))
Here it is guys!! My story for this year’s @dcjbigbang :D
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Title: seduction showdow: roommate edition
Link(s):Story | Art - AO3 - Tumblr (link to be added)
Ship: DCJ (Deanjimstiel)
Rating: Explicit
Tags: Castiel, Jimmy Novak, Dean Winchester, Charlie Bradbury, Alternate Universe - Modern with Magic, Witch Jimmy Novak, Witch Castiel, Non-Magical Dean, Twincest, Alternate Universe - Roommates/Housemates, Pining, Teasing Twins, Seduction Shenanigans, Explicit Sex, Hand Jobs, Anal Sex, magic sex, Masturbation
Summary:
When Cas and Jimmy’s roommate moves out due to the stress of living with two practicing witches, they decide to find a new roommate. After meeting several candidates they’ve finally settled on one and it has absolutely nothing to do with how amazingly hot he is…
Excerpt:
Castiel had to subtly kick Jimmy in the shin to prevent him from saying anything that might scare Dean away because, despite the obvious attraction they both felt, he was actually the best potential roommate they’d seen. He was kind, polite, and good natured.
And so so so hot.
“I have to say, Dean; you’re the best applicant we’ve had so far,” Castiel reassured him with what he hoped was a polite yet cautiously flirtatious smile. Dean returned the smile so he took that as a win. “And I can tell you that we are very interested in in giving you a shot.”
Dean’s eyes brightened as his grin grew. “Really? You’re serious,” he asked in mild disbelief, “I got to admit, I was worried that me being non-magical might be a downside.” When Castiel and Jimmy only looked at him with confusion, Dean clarified. “See, I’ve actually gone to see a few places where they were magic practitioners but when they found out that I wasn’t… they made it pretty clear they weren’t interested.”
“Well I guess we’re lucky that those people were major douchebags,” Jimmy said. He was smirking but Castiel knew his twin well enough to know that there was a small current of anger at the discrimination their fellow witches had been a part of. There was a slightly stilted pause which was broken by Jimmy clapping his hands together loudly. “So, when can you move in?”
They quickly ironed out the details like rent, moving in, etc. and too soon for Castiel’s liking, Dean was gone. Both of them stared at the door after it shut, leaving the apartment in silence.
Castiel turned his head to see Jimmy looking back at him, his hungry gaze matching the one that he knew he himself was sporting.
@dcjbigbang pairings: cas/jimmy and dean/cas/jimmy word count: 9.7k tags: no warnings apply, A/B/O, college!au, alpha cas/alpha jimmy, twincest, voyeur!dean, neighbors, masturbation, threesome ao3 | art post
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But if there’s one thing Dean Winchester loves more than cherry
pie, it’s Alpha on Alpha porn. Like cherry pie, it is an indulgence and a
luxury, something to be savored and enjoyed.
Therefore, when a live show starts up across the way, he will absolutely drop whatever he’s doing in order to enjoy it.
The worst thing about this apartment is the fact that the pool has
been ‘under construction’ for six months with no sign of anyone actually
working on it. When he, Benny, and Victor started renting here, they’d
pictured weekends in the summer sitting by the water. It’s looking more
and more like that won’t be happening.
Other bad shit about this place includes their upstairs neighbor who gets way
too excited about college basketball, the ‘bros’ downstairs who like to
party and smoke cigarettes on their balcony at three in the goddamn
morning, and the way management doesn’t ever communicate with them
unless it’s a letter on the door about some inconvenient bullshit.
The
best thing about this apartment is living across from Cas and Jimmy.
Their building is the next one over from Dean’s, conveniently positioned
so that Dean’s bedroom window faces the twins’. The twins who share one bedroom.
Title: Never Be the Same Again Author: Pherryt Artist: FlightoftheSeraph Rating: E Word Count: 29322 Archive Warnings: MCD Major Tags: Past physical/mental abuse, MCD (not Dean, Cas or Jimmy), multiple fires, hurt/comfort, implied switching, top!Jimmy, bottom!Cas, switch!Dean, masturbation, (Non explicit) past mention of Cas/Jimmy/Balthazar, grief, Happy Ending, angst Summary: Life hasn’t been easy for Dean – it never is for orphans – but he reckons it’s a bit harder when you remember you’ve got family out there, somewhere. He’s been beat up, abused, and sold – more than once – for cheap labor, but Dean finds strength in that knowledge. With only a faded memory and a beat-up photograph to guide him, he grows up and gets out, determined to find his brother.
But even the stubborn Dean Winchester has to concede after years of searching that those two things might not be enough.
Rudderless, Dean finds himself adrift and alone in an island town somewhere north of the U.S. Taking on make work to keep himself busy, he’s convinced to take some classes at the local college. He agrees, trying to regroup and figure out what to do with his life.
It may have been just the break he needed. He couldn’t ever have expected the twins, or how life seemed to serendipitously drop the exact thing he’d been looking for right into his path. Excerpt:
Jimmy stared at the green eyed, freckled Adonis he and Cas had been watching from the back of the classroom for days.
If he wasn’t mistaken, their interest was returned, though the man would blush and look away as soon as he noticed he was noticed. Jimmy wondered how far the blush extended. And the freckles too. It was the first time he or Cas had ever found someone mutually attractive, aside from Balthazar back in their second year so long ago, and they were dying to get to know him.
“I’ve heard rumors, brother,” Jimmy said, all while keeping Mr. Winchester in his sight as they leaned against the west wall bordering the campus. The red leaves of the maple had started falling and it was normally a sight to behold, yet the twins were oblivious to everything except Winchester.
When they’d returned to the campus to finish their interrupted schooling, they had known the few they’d let close enough to consider friends would have moved on. The friendships they’d forged had always been of surface only and didn’t last beyond their abrupt departure from the school, yet those carefully cultivated ‘friendships’ had been a necessity to their sanity and to combat the inevitable rumors.
Balthazar had been the only one to get a closer look into their dynamic and the fact that the man hadn’t run had been truly amazing. And it had been good for Jimmy and Cas. Balthazar was well and truly insatiable and had a remarkable talent for sniffing out where he would be welcome. While their attraction to him was more of curiosity and a desire to learn than true lust or love, once they’d learned that he wouldn’t judge them, their trysts with him had been fun and educational. Jimmy and Cas had learned much in the way of lovemaking from Balthazar and for that, the two of them would forever be grateful.
That he’d moved on after they left was only to be expected and since none of them had gone into whatever it was they’d had with expectations of more, it hadn’t left the twins hurting.
But never had they looked upon someone with the same desire they held for each other as they now did when they looked upon Dean. It took Jimmy’s breath away and of course it meant that he would do all that he could to learn everything about the man.
Title: Never Be the Same Again Author: Pherryt Artist: FlightoftheSeraph Rating: E Word Count: 29322 Archive Warnings: MCD Major Tags: Past physical/mental abuse, MCD (not Dean, Cas or Jimmy), multiple fires, hurt/comfort, implied switching, top!Jimmy, bottom!Cas, switch!Dean, masturbation, (Non explicit) past mention of Cas/Jimmy/Balthazar, grief, Happy Ending, angst Summary: Life hasn’t been easy for Dean – it never is for orphans – but he reckons it’s a bit harder when you remember you’ve got family out there, somewhere. He’s been beat up, abused, and sold – more than once – for cheap labor, but Dean finds strength in that knowledge. With only a faded memory and a beat-up photograph to guide him, he grows up and gets out, determined to find his brother.
But even the stubborn Dean Winchester has to concede after years of searching that those two things might not be enough.
Rudderless, Dean finds himself adrift and alone in an island town somewhere north of the U.S. Taking on make work to keep himself busy, he’s convinced to take some classes at the local college. He agrees, trying to regroup and figure out what to do with his life.
It may have been just the break he needed. He couldn’t ever have expected the twins, or how life seemed to serendipitously drop the exact thing he’d been looking for right into his path. Excerpt:
Jimmy stared at the green eyed, freckled Adonis he and Cas had been watching from the back of the classroom for days.
If he wasn’t mistaken, their interest was returned, though the man would blush and look away as soon as he noticed he was noticed. Jimmy wondered how far the blush extended. And the freckles too. It was the first time he or Cas had ever found someone mutually attractive, aside from Balthazar back in their second year so long ago, and they were dying to get to know him.
“I’ve heard rumors, brother,” Jimmy said, all while keeping Mr. Winchester in his sight as they leaned against the west wall bordering the campus. The red leaves of the maple had started falling and it was normally a sight to behold, yet the twins were oblivious to everything except Winchester.
When they’d returned to the campus to finish their interrupted schooling, they had known the few they’d let close enough to consider friends would have moved on. The friendships they’d forged had always been of surface only and didn’t last beyond their abrupt departure from the school, yet those carefully cultivated ‘friendships’ had been a necessity to their sanity and to combat the inevitable rumors.
Balthazar had been the only one to get a closer look into their dynamic and the fact that the man hadn’t run had been truly amazing. And it had been good for Jimmy and Cas. Balthazar was well and truly insatiable and had a remarkable talent for sniffing out where he would be welcome. While their attraction to him was more of curiosity and a desire to learn than true lust or love, once they’d learned that he wouldn’t judge them, their trysts with him had been fun and educational. Jimmy and Cas had learned much in the way of lovemaking from Balthazar and for that, the two of them would forever be grateful.
That he’d moved on after they left was only to be expected and since none of them had gone into whatever it was they’d had with expectations of more, it hadn’t left the twins hurting.
But never had they looked upon someone with the same desire they held for each other as they now did when they looked upon Dean. It took Jimmy’s breath away and of course it meant that he would do all that he could to learn everything about the man.
Title: Everything You Wanted To Know About Twin Teachers But Were Too Afraid To Ask Author: wetkitchenpaint Artist: dmsilvisart Rating: Explicit Word Count: 13k Archive Warnings: no archive warnings apply Major Tags: Twincest, Polyamory, Teacher Cas, Teacher Dean, Teacher Jimmy, top Cas, bottom Dean, implied switching but not onscreen Summary: When Castiel & Jimmy Novak are hired as new teachers at the school where Dean Winchester works, Dean’s first worry is that he’s going to have to wear a jockstrap so as to keep in his dick in check while teaching in close proximity to such gorgeous men. But when he starts catching feelings, and he finds out that they’re reciprocated? That brings several new challenges for all three of our teachers. Excerpt:
Cas and Jimmy are close. Very close. Maybe a little weirdly close. When Cas doesn’t show up to the teachers’ lounge during lunch for the first week, Dean ventures into his room to make sure he knows he’s welcome. He knocks on the closed door before entering but is surprised at the scene that greets him on the other side. Jimmy’s reclining on Cas’s desk with his stocking feet in Cas’s lap. Jimmy is holding a sandwich, taking slow bites as Cas rubs his foot. It definitely feels like Dean is intruding on some kind of oddly intimate moment. The twins stare at him.
Dean looks at Cas. “I was, uh, gonna ask if you wanted to come down to the lounge and eat with me, but I guess you already got a lunch buddy,” Dean says, giving an uncomfortable chuckle at the end. He feels incredibly awkward, so he takes a few steps back, grabbing the door handle in an attempt to make an exit, but Castiel speaks up. “Dean, would you like to join us?”
Dean pauses, his eyes going wide. He’s not certain he can withstand the awkward tension without exploding, but he knows it might make things even weirder if he refuses. “Uh, yeah, sure. I-I can do that,” he stammers. He walks in and takes a seat at the large semi-circle table near Cas’s desk. “So, what’s, uh…” he gestures at the twins, hoping they’ll understand what he’s asking.
Jimmy snorts, and takes a bite of his sandwich. “I got a little overenthusiastic directing my kindergarteners last period. Took a weird hop and twisted my fucking ankle when I came down.”
“That’s commitment,” Dean responds, laughing.
“It’s ridiculous, actually,” Cas interjects.
“A ridiculous amount of commitment. I should get an award for shit like this.”
Title: Everything You Wanted To Know About Twin Teachers But Were Too Afraid To Ask Author: wetkitchenpaint Artist: dmsilvisart Rating: Explicit Word Count: 13k Archive Warnings: no archive warnings apply Major Tags: Twincest, Polyamory, Teacher Cas, Teacher Dean, Teacher Jimmy, top Cas, bottom Dean, implied switching but not onscreen Summary: When Castiel & Jimmy Novak are hired as new teachers at the school where Dean Winchester works, Dean’s first worry is that he’s going to have to wear a jockstrap so as to keep in his dick in check while teaching in close proximity to such gorgeous men. But when he starts catching feelings, and he finds out that they’re reciprocated? That brings several new challenges for all three of our teachers. Excerpt:
Cas and Jimmy are close. Very close. Maybe a little weirdly close. When Cas doesn’t show up to the teachers’ lounge during lunch for the first week, Dean ventures into his room to make sure he knows he’s welcome. He knocks on the closed door before entering but is surprised at the scene that greets him on the other side. Jimmy’s reclining on Cas’s desk with his stocking feet in Cas’s lap. Jimmy is holding a sandwich, taking slow bites as Cas rubs his foot. It definitely feels like Dean is intruding on some kind of oddly intimate moment. The twins stare at him.
Dean looks at Cas. “I was, uh, gonna ask if you wanted to come down to the lounge and eat with me, but I guess you already got a lunch buddy,” Dean says, giving an uncomfortable chuckle at the end. He feels incredibly awkward, so he takes a few steps back, grabbing the door handle in an attempt to make an exit, but Castiel speaks up. “Dean, would you like to join us?”
Dean pauses, his eyes going wide. He’s not certain he can withstand the awkward tension without exploding, but he knows it might make things even weirder if he refuses. “Uh, yeah, sure. I-I can do that,” he stammers. He walks in and takes a seat at the large semi-circle table near Cas’s desk. “So, what’s, uh…” he gestures at the twins, hoping they’ll understand what he’s asking.
Jimmy snorts, and takes a bite of his sandwich. “I got a little overenthusiastic directing my kindergarteners last period. Took a weird hop and twisted my fucking ankle when I came down.”
“That’s commitment,” Dean responds, laughing.
“It’s ridiculous, actually,” Cas interjects.
“A ridiculous amount of commitment. I should get an award for shit like this.”